View Full Version : Rechler running commercial on news12
chevymadman
08-03-2009, 01:08 PM
Its funny I have not been on this site for a very long time. I gave alot of support with Calverton the first and the last time. I also supported Yaphank,
all everyone ever was told we need support. Well on News12 I saw a commercial that rechler is running. It is in support of the light house project
that they need support. Maybe if this was the deal with Calverton support would have not been a problem. We were also told don`t mention Drag Racing
what Bullshit. It was one big Bullshit story after another they have Riverhead in the pocket. My brother and I went to a town meeting at Riverhead. We talked to a rep from Rechler he said a Drag Strip was not in the plans EVER!
Now after seeing this commercial just pissed me off one more time. My brother and I wasted years and a lot of time with these jerkoff`s.
betcha618
08-03-2009, 01:14 PM
AMEN!!
We were also told don`t mention Drag Racing
what Bullshit. It was one big Bullshit story after another
Thats the way it still is. your not missing anything.
LongIsland63SS409
08-03-2009, 11:32 PM
"We were also told don`t mention Drag Racing
what BS."
What are we supposed to call it? LOL
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/drag%20racing
Mike
cowbay
08-04-2009, 07:01 AM
I have to agree on this one. Last time I checked drag race was not one of the seven dirty words George Carlin used to talk about that was not allowed on TV.
Its funny I have not been on this site for a very long time. I gave alot of support with Calverton the first and the last time. I also supported Yaphank,
all everyone ever was told we need support. Well on News12 I saw a commercial that rechler is running. It is in support of the light house project
that they need support. Maybe if this was the deal with Calverton support would have not been a problem. We were also told don`t mention Drag Racing
what Bullshit. It was one big Bullshit story after another they have Riverhead in the pocket. My brother and I went to a town meeting at Riverhead. We talked to a rep from Rechler he said a Drag Strip was not in the plans EVER!
Now after seeing this commercial just pissed me off one more time. My brother and I wasted years and a lot of time with these jerkoff`s.
I understand frustration and needing to vent. Yaphank's failure was betrayal at the county level. Calvertons failure lies firmly at the feet of Riverhead's town board. Why blame just Rechler? If the folks who so desired a motorsports orientated anything would have stuck together, we might have gotten somewhere. After the Yaphank deal fell apart, the wind came out of our sails. And it has never returned. 200 or so of us won't get it done. And this isn't a swipe at anyone who has kept up the good fight. But facts are facts. My eyes don't see enough support for anyone to build anything. No one is going to spend 50,000 an acre for land plus improvements to go broke in the first year. And that's just the way it is. As I see it. :mad:
Suicide666
08-04-2009, 09:38 AM
To this day I have no clue as to why we could never ud the "D" word. It was a BIG mistake.
That whole deal never felt right.The layout really didn't suit a drag strip.if you look at it,but it did suit other forms of the sport so it would have been something to work from.I think Rechler was just looking for a profitable venue,and a track that you can race your exotic sportscar on I think was his goal.The budget drag racer wasn't in the picture,a failure on their part as drag racing would carry the facility between major events.Their are more of us than any other form of automotive sport here.Like Art said nobody's going to build a track for a couple hundred people.You need to make a profit for it to be worth it.It is a business after all.
betcha618
08-04-2009, 11:02 AM
just tell them to go to English town, Atco, and Island any weekend and ask around how many people are from NY. Funny how we don't have to rally behind builders wanting to build a wall-mart or strip mall etc. If the builders did their research and saw how inexpensive a dragstrip would be to build compared to the revenue from it, they would build. Especially in Calverton. Runway = track surface, get A timing system, Some jersey barriers and a couple grand stands then instant profit. its really a no brainer.
IIRC EPCAL's 700 or so acres sold for 140 million or so. The numbers say tech cards would be very expensive. I'm not trying to be a smart ass here. Even to do a LIMP at 50,000 an acre is over three million. Just the payment on that for 15 years at 6 % is mind numbing (27,847.28) I still think if it was a slam dunk money maker, it would have happened already. JMO
Supershafts
08-06-2009, 10:45 PM
To this day I have no clue as to why we could never ud the "D" word. It was a BIG mistake.
You weren't at the meeting with the civics at calverton, when Rexcorp went to let them see how much better there plan was...
See CC controls much of what goes on in RHT...
When the word drag racing was mentioned everything went down the tubes, people made out loud statements and or uttered insanely stupid things.. any attempt at educating them was totally wasted...
They went back to make them happy with a different plan many months later...
The other words were never uttered on the 2nd attempt, minds weren't changed...
At another meeting at the CC's they were now totally against RC in a big way, dead set on stopping that bs from coming to calverton..."we want RR gone and now there gonna do this".
They won! A small group in comparison, but they won...so when i was told do not use the words...
I didn't like the idea either.... but this is what i was told...
"Unless YOU! can come up with enough people to counter anything that comes at this and make them look like a bad idea that should have stayed in bed that day and make any politician scared just on the numbers behind this... say what you want...if not, We have done the research and the MSP isn't really motivated and isn't going to fight like you believe they are ready to"
That was, and is how it is
Supershafts
08-15-2009, 02:31 PM
how inexpensive a dragstrip would be to build compared to the revenue from it, they would build. Especially in Calverton. Runway = track surface, get A timing system, Some jersey barriers and a couple grand stands then instant profit. its really a no brainer.
The only good point of that is the runway is in place... the jersey barriers will run an easy $90,000...that's only 4400' of JB...keep in mind that is not the containment type which is even more expensive, this is the cheaper flip your car style..
So after spending a cool $150 million you get to drop another easy $120k... plus insurance has not been paid yet....
That is not a instant profit....if the runway was not there...the cost of the concrete and asphalt would deter any idea of building.
Suicide666
08-15-2009, 03:43 PM
Trust me after what they did to the runways they are making sure nobody can race there.
When you start looking at the numbers to build, it becomes clear how wrong it was to let an established facility go. I know for myself I had no idea just what was at stake until it was too late.
When you start looking at the numbers to build, it becomes clear how wrong it was to let an established facility go. I know for myself I had no idea just what was at stake until it was too late.
Art I think people were duped into believing Yapank was going to be the answer to their prayers.It seemed like a done deal in the minds of many.Your right we all should have taken a stand a Westhampton,but because of the operation,the owner there people turned their backs on that place.Since then we've have been being following the carrot on a stick,try here,I think there would be a good choice.One lie after another,we fell for it.Look where we're at.We've been played,by politicians,developers,even civic groups if you think about it.Why because we don't have a game plan an objective to reach our goal.If we did I believe we could either reach our goal or at least find out it never will happen.With thousands to sign a petition saying they would like to see something here,then taking that to the politicians we might have a chance or at least an answer.
I've said in the past we should survey the politicians,all of them,a yes or no survey in simple wording so they can understand,but we need to do it as an organization not as individuals.There's a thread in here somewhere doing just that.We just never did it.
So here's my idea,step 1 get a petition going so we have names and addresses of people who want a motorsports facility here,step 2 send these to the politicians in your district with the survey and get a response then meet with the politicians as a group and workout the details.
This would involve the participation of the members to handle their district and send a form letter from our organization,with the petition and survey.This is where we seem to have a problem,we would actually have to do it and it seems not many people want to,or nobody can agree on anything.This is why we've gotten nowhere.We need to start from go and work the game before we can get our $200.00.
If you see how civic groups run as we have,this is it.We've got to start at the begining.We're all over the place chasing carrots.
LongIsland63SS409
08-16-2009, 03:28 PM
Art I think people were duped into believing Yapank was going to be the answer to their prayers.It seemed like a done deal in the minds of many.Your right we all should have taken a stand a Westhampton,but because of the operation,the owner there people turned their backs on that place.Since then we've have been being following the carrot on a stick,try here,I think there would be a good choice.One lie after another,we fell for it.Look where we're at.We've been played,by politicians,developers,even civic groups if you think about it.Why because we don't have a game plan an objective to reach our goal.If we did I believe we could either reach our goal or at least find out it never will happen.With thousands to sign a petition saying they would like to see something here,then taking that to the politicians we might have a chance or at least an answer.
I've said in the past we should survey the politicians,all of them,a yes or no survey in simple wording so they can understand,but we need to do it as an organization not as individuals.There's a thread in here somewhere doing just that.We just never did it.
So here's my idea,step 1 get a petition going so we have names and addresses of people who want a motorsports facility here,step 2 send these to the politicians in your district with the survey and get a response then meet with the politicians as a group and workout the details.
This would involve the participation of the members to handle their district and send a form letter from our organization,with the petition and survey.This is where we seem to have a problem,we would actually have to do it and it seems not many people want to,or nobody can agree on anything.This is why we've gotten nowhere.We need to start from go and work the game before we can get our $200.00.
If you see how civic groups run as we have,this is it.We've got to start at the begining.We're all over the place chasing carrots.
Terry,
Well said..............thats exactly what happened.
We need to start something thats why I proposed the reunion idea but was quickly turned into a joke thread :confused:
Attached a picture of the Pocono Drag Lodge reunion that took place yesterday. We can do the same thing to bring awareness to our group and the need for a dragstrip.
Mike
GRRRR67RA
08-16-2009, 05:01 PM
i was at a car show today and a bunch of guys were talking about how they miss westhampton and national, i told them about the websites and they had no idea that anything was really going on. im sure flyers have been handed out but i wouldnt mind sticking them in peoples cars or whatever, does anybody have something i can get copys made ?
Supershafts
08-17-2009, 12:13 AM
There are pdf's on LIMA to print out fliers to drop in cars.
I can't believe people are still supposedly in the dark about this though, we have been in many news papers, many tv news interviews, even 2 radio shows and several radio commercials i took out..
Tmac we are beyond the need for petitions and govt needing to know about us...
Trust me they know....
There is very few that haven't spoke to me many times, heard my plea to them, the few that don't know are in towns that have no room or area for anything...
We went from not being known, to politicians knowing perfectly who i am and what i represent and that i am relentless....
They also know i am 1 person funding and working alone......
They also worry, but not much, since as i say i represent 10's of thousands i haven't ever shown that EXCEPT for signed letters....
Signed letters led the way for politicians to become very nervous of LIMA...but when the time came for the letters to be put the iron..... nothing...
So again.... just like the SCC meeting, that needs to happen again....
I still can't believe how insane some people are over that.....they left there house 3 different times and thought that was all they would have to do...
That was the easy part....
The hard part would be following that up at the Hauppauge building during business hours... Which at one protest for that everyone got scared...all of a sudden no one wanted to do it....
The other which wasn't a protest but a news conference for us, and i think 20 people showed up...of which i had to lay out $500 to get 2 cars there for display purposes.. Not a great showing to anyone including me how badly anyone really wants racing back..
Petitions and letters aren't the answer...
The answer is physical involvement...
The few who came to the abco communist meeting...seen how levy talks with me, seen he knows how relentless i am, how i walk him to the car...he knows, he knows....
He has no need to worry about doing anything else at yaphank..... i am one person...
Like they said about the yaphank meetings in there offices... "don't worry they'll blow off steam and fall apart"
Words from inside there office.....
Physical involvement....they know we stand and get people to sign letters for us....they know that 10,000 letters most were gotten by 3 people... (Thank Andy for the majority of them, Alan also was responsible), they also know we don't have the pull to show up in force once, forget more then once..
This is why RHT was scared...because 3 of us got thousands of signatures.....why RHT supervisor was ready to do anything...then he seen what was really behind LIMA...
Sure we made many truthful embarrassing signs and quite a few full page adds in several papers... very annoying to them... but they bet the farm we couldn't get the numbers to the polls...we got 2 of 3....1 to little...
Why.....very little physical involvement
Supershafts
08-17-2009, 12:17 AM
Look at this for example...
Where is this discussion taking place..
Anyone remember posting here?
http://libn.com/libizblog/2007/01/17/first-up-steve-levy/
Follow along through the charade that was Yaphank....
Suicide666
08-17-2009, 08:23 PM
With the price of land on LI its a long shot.
Marty the problem is the people don't know.All we did with flyers that is aimed at the gearheads we need the general public support.How many of us handed out flyers and what did it get us,what you see here and on LIMA.I believe you that the politicians know about us,but I think we need to know about them,where they stand.I know they tell you what you want to here.We need to figure a way to make what they say work for us and if it's not on paper it's hear say.How many people do you think would sign a petition if we went door to door,canvasing some areas.I think we would get a lot.People I talk to from every walk of life think it's a good idea but aren't into racing enough to get involved but told me if I had a petition they would sign it.Some are against it,so you just move on to the next door.I think there are more for than against by a wide margin.Getting the word out either cost money or time.I've don't have much of either but more time than money.
betcha618
08-19-2009, 10:23 AM
Try to appeal to the people who would rather kids race on a track then on the street and possibly hit one of them or their kids.
spikeybabe22
08-19-2009, 02:06 PM
Possibly spread the word through schools?
Try to appeal to the people who would rather kids race on a track then on the street and possibly hit one of them or their kids.
That is the best shot we have and the one all people I've talked to over the years agreed with,AN ALTERNATIVE,I tell them without one you will get nowhere with getting kids and others from street racing.EVERYBODY seems to get that.Some say it wount stop the street racing,I say back,lets say it saves even one life,is the cost too high.What if that life was yours or someone close to you!Look at all the money spent on saving trees,aren't people worth more?Save your trees but give us the opportunity to save people from dying hitting them.Safety is our greatest sales pitch.
Suicide666
08-19-2009, 09:58 PM
Not just kids, I think the average age last weekend was in the 30's
Possibly spread the word through schools?
A good idea. That in mind, it would require someone with time during school hours to make a presentation.(to the young people ) Which, unfortunately, leaves most of us out. The pitch to the school board or PTA could be done in the evening, which is a bit more favorable. Someone among us must work nights or swing. (does anyone even use that term anymore??)
spikeybabe22
08-20-2009, 09:45 AM
A good idea. That in mind, it would require someone with time during school hours to make a presentation.(to the young people ) Which, unfortunately, leaves most of us out. The pitch to the school board or PTA could be done in the evening, which is a bit more favorable. Someone among us must work nights or swing. (does anyone even use that term anymore??)
The PTA idea is good, and yes they still use swing shift. Unfort. i leave a 540 am and dont get home til 7, so i would be out but could help make up flyers or a presentation on powerpoint.
betcha618
08-20-2009, 09:55 AM
A good idea. That in mind, it would require someone with time during school hours to make a presentation.(to the young people ) Which, unfortunately, leaves most of us out. The pitch to the school board or PTA could be done in the evening, which is a bit more favorable. Someone among us must work nights or swing. (does anyone even use that term anymore??)
people still use the term swing, but I don't think it still has the same meaning. lol
Supershafts
08-20-2009, 06:27 PM
A good idea. That in mind, it would require someone with time during school hours to make a presentation.(to the young people ) Which, unfortunately, leaves most of us out. The pitch to the school board or PTA could be done in the evening, which is a bit more favorable. Someone among us must work nights or swing. (does anyone even use that term anymore??)
We went this route, Myself and Alan.
There was a guy here or on LIMA he had a son here too.I can't remember his name but some years back he did just what we're talking about.He went to schools with hot rods and cops.He had a magazine too.Red 67 Nova I think.He had a working plan.
betcha618
08-21-2009, 09:25 AM
some one get in touch with him.
spikeybabe22
08-21-2009, 09:50 AM
There was a guy here or on LIMA he had a son here too.I can't remember his name but some years back he did just what we're talking about.He went to schools with hot rods and cops.He had a magazine too.Red 67 Nova I think.He had a working plan.
anyway to get in contact? hmm maybe he will see this?
That was Random rodder and his son Bullfather. They still post over on the Long Island Jam board.
That was Random rodder and his son Bullfather. They still post over on the Long Island Jam board.
Art what memory pill do you take?Got to get me some of those.
Memory pill? Nothing like it. I live a "healthy" lifestyle of no sleep, two lifetimes worth of stress, two or three jobs at any given time, and a balanced diet. :D The magazine that Random Rodder used to be with was Golden Chariots. I'm pretty sure when his health went away, he stopped his involvement. But I'm sure he may still know some people.
What happened to his son?I met him at a few of the political things seemed like a nice guy,and was into the cause.Isn't he Tartan Tire?
What happened to his son?I met him at a few of the political things seemed like a nice guy,and was into the cause.Isn't he Tartan Tire?
Nope. Tartan I don't think was ever on this board. The dad is Random rodder.
The son is Bullfather. He has his own web thing pitstoppitbull something or other dot com. Anything he does takes forever to load and I can never figure out how to navigate anything new, so I get discouraged quickly. :(
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