Cooper's Resolutions

[mikelbeck]

Some information was mailed to me about Legislator Cooper's drag racing related resolution.

Here's the resolution:


STRICKEN AS OF 9/14/2006

UPDATED VERSION AS OF 3/6/2006

Intro. Res. No. 1253-2006 Laid on Table 3/14/2006

Introduced by Legislator Cooper


RESOLUTION NO. –2006, ESTABLISHING TASK FORCE TO STUDY FEASIBILITY OF ELIMINATING ILLEGAL DRAG RACING BY ESTABLISHING A LEGAL DRAG STRIP IN SUFFOLK COUNTY

WHEREAS, illegal speed contests or drag racing, as they are commonly known, present an enormous danger to Suffolk County residents; and
WHEREAS, the penalties for drag racing are severe and the potential for injury and death are high; however, many of our young people continue to engage in this very dangerous activity; and
WHEREAS, Suffolk residents would benefit from the establishment of a legal car racing site that would enable car enthusiasts to race automobiles legally and safely; and
WHEREAS, Long Island has a long history of association with automobile racing beginning with the Vanderbilt Cup Race, which first took place in 1904 along the road now known as Vanderbilt Motor Parkway; and
WHEREAS, Long Island has been home to car racing sites at Freeport, Islip, West Hampton, and Riverhead and Long Island hosted a one-quarter mile drag strip at Roosevelt Field during the middle 1960’s; and
WHEREAS, the closest legal drag racing strip to Long Island now is in Englishtown, New Jersey, an unreasonable distance from Long Island for most local car racers; and
WHEREAS, a car racing site in Suffolk County could bring other associated benefits, including a car racing museum, a venue for car club exhibitions, and a place go-kart enthusiasts could use on off days; and
WHEREAS, a car racing site could produce revenue for the taxpayers of Suffolk County; now, therefore be it

1st RESOLVED, that a special Suffolk County Task Force for a Car Racing site is hereby created to consider the feasibility and potential locations for a Car Racing site that could incorporate a museum; a place for car shows; and for youth go-karting; and be it further

2nd RESOLVED, that the Car Racing Task Force shall consist of the following (7) members:

1.) the Director of the Suffolk County Planning Department or his designee, who shall serve as Chairman of the Task Force;
2.) the Suffolk County Commissioner of the Department of Public Works, or his designee;
3.) the Suffolk County Commissioner of Economic Development and Workforce Housing, or his designee;
4.) the Presiding Officer, or his designee;
5.) the County Executive, or his designee;
6.) a member of the National Hot Rod Association; and
7.) a member of the National Drag Racing Association;

and be it further

3rd RESOLVED, that the Car Racing Task Force shall hold its first meeting no later than thirty (30) days after the oaths of office of all members have been filed, which meeting shall be convened by the Chairman of the Car Racing Task Force, for the purpose of organization and the appointment of a vice chairperson and a secretary; and be it further

4th RESOLVED, that the members of said Car Racing Task Force shall serve without compensation and shall serve at the pleasure of their respective appointing authorities; and be it further

5th RESOLVED, that the Car Racing Task Force shall meet at least four (4) times per year, keep a record of all its proceedings, and determine the rules of its own proceedings with special meetings to be called by the Chairperson upon his or her own initiative or upon receipt of a written request therefor signed by at least three (3) members of the Car Racing Task Force. Written notice of the time and place of such special meetings shall be given by the secretary to each member at least four (4) days before the date fixed by the notice for such special meeting; and be it further

6th RESOLVED, that four (4) members of the Car Racing Task Force shall constitute a quorum to transact the business of the Car Racing Task Force at both regular and special meetings; and be it further

7th RESOLVED, that the Car Racing Task Force may submit requests to the County Executive and/or the County Legislature for approval for the provision of secretarial services, travel expenses, or retention of consultants to assist the Car Racing Task Force with such endeavors, said total expenditures not to exceed Five Thousand ($5,000.00) per fiscal year, which services shall be subject to Legislative approval; and be it further

8th RESOLVED, that clerical services involving the month-to-month operation of this Car Racing Task Force, as well as supplies and postage as necessary, will be provided by the staff of the County Department of Planning; and be it further

9th RESOLVED, that the Car Racing Task Force may conduct such informal hearings and meetings at any place or places within the County of Suffolk for the purpose of obtaining necessary information or other data to assist it in the proper performance of its duties and functions as it deems necessary; and be it further

10th RESOLVED, that the Car Racing Task Force may delegate to any member of the Car Racing Task Force the power and authority to conduct such hearings and meetings; and be it further

11th RESOLVED, that the Car Racing Task Force shall cooperate with the Legislative Committees of the County Legislature and make available to each Committee's use, upon request, any records and other data it may accumulate or obtain; and be it further

12th RESOLVED, that this special Car Racing Task Force shall submit a written report of its findings and determinations together with its recommendations for action, if any, to each member of the County Legislature and the County Executive no later than one hundred eighty (180) days subsequent to the effective date of this Resolution for consideration, review, and appropriate action, if necessary, by the entire County Legislature; and be it further

13th RESOLVED, that the Car Racing Task Force shall expire, and the terms of office of its members terminate, as of December 31, 2006 at which time the Car Racing Task Force shall deposit all the records of its proceedings with the Clerk of the Legislature; and be it further

14th RESOLVED, that this study shall not be performed by any outside consultant or consulting firm unless explicit approval and authorization for such consultant or consulting firm is granted pursuant to a duly enacted resolution of the County Legislature; and be it further

15th RESOLVED, that this Legislature, being the State Environmental Quality Review Act (SEQRA) lead agency, hereby finds and determines that this resolution constitutes a Type II action pursuant to Section 617.5(c)(20) and (27) of Title 6 of the NEW YORK CODE OF RULES AND REGULATIONS (6 NYCRR) and within the meaning of Section 8-0109(2) of the NEW YORK ENVIRONMENTAL CONSERVATION LAW as a promulgation of regulations, rules, policies, procedures, and legislative decisions in connection with continuing agency administration, management and information collection, and the Suffolk County Council on Environmental Quality (CEQ) is hereby directed to circulate any appropriate SEQRA notices of determination of non-applicability or non-significance in accordance with this resolution.

[mikelbeck]

And here's Cooper's accomplishments:

LEGISLATIVE ACCOMPLISHMENTS

2007: Sponsored legislation to fund the single largest environmental protection program in Long Island’s history.
2007: Sponsored legislation establishing a pilot program in Huntington Station to determine the effectiveness of security cameras in reducing crime and apprehending criminals.
2007: Sponsored legislation to waive civil service examination fees for veterans.
2007: Sponsored legislation directing Suffolk County's Veterans Services Agency to offer a county-issued Veterans Identification Card.
2007: Sponsored legislation to give veterans a discount on county park fees.
2006: Sponsored legislation to prohibit Level 2 and Level 3 sex offenders from loitering in places where children gather.
2006: Sponsored legislation to curb predatory towing practices.
2006: Sponsored legislation establishing a policy in Suffolk County to reuse and recycle electronic equipment to reduce hazardous pollutants.
2006: Sponsored legislation to acquire the 11-acre Mohlenhoff property in Huntington for use as soccer fields.
2006: Sponsored legislation permitting the seizure and auction of illegal drag racing vehicles to protect public safety.
2006: Sponsored legislation creating a domestic partner registry for Suffolk County residents.
2006: Sponsored legislation to create a renewable energy park on county-owned property.
2006: Sponsored legislation to establish an Ecology and Technology Park showcasing eco-friendly technologies.
2006: Sponsored legislation establishing the "Safe Communities Initiative" task force to explore the use of surveillance cameras to deter crime and help apprehend criminals.
2006: Sponsored legislation to ensure that environmentalists and historic preservationists will always be represented on Suffolk’s Council on Environmental Quality.
2006: Sponsored legislation making it illegal for any registered sex offender to reside within one-quarter mile of any school, day care center or playground in Suffolk County.
2005: Sponsored legislation to prevent price gouging by gasoline service stations.
2005: Sponsored legislation setting a goal for Suffolk County government to purchase at least 25% of its energy needs from non-polluting, renewable “Green Power” technologies by 2010.
2005: Sponsored legislation strengthening Suffolk County’s nuisance abatement law, commonly known as the “Crack House Law,” by adding a broad range of violent crimes to the list of prohibited offenses.
2004: Sponsored legislation prohibiting the sale, purchase and use of Alcohol Without Liquid (AWOL) machines, which experts fear could lead to higher rates of alcohol addiction, brain damage and drunk driving.
2004: Sponsored legislation creating a task force to review and recommend changes to Suffolk County’s procedure for confiscating and auctioning delinquent tax properties.
2004: Sponsored legislation prohibiting companies or individuals that have been convicted of any corruption-related crime within the past ten years from doing business with Suffolk County.
2004: Sponsored legislation creating an Adopt-A-Shoreline program that will raise money through corporate sponsorships to protect our local waterways.
2004: Sponsored legislation banning the use of Mobile Infrared Transmitter (MIRT) devices, which can change traffic light signals from red to green within seconds.
2004: Sponsored legislation to establish an E-mail Bid Announcement System for Suffolk County.
2004: Sponsored legislation to increase the fines for home improvement contractors who operate without a license.
2003:Sponsored legislation to create a dog run at Coindre Hall County Park in Huntington.
2003:Sponsored legislation to levy fines for illegally clearing trees or building in the Long Island Pine Barrens.
2003: Sponsored legislation prohibiting the sale of all dietary supplements containing ephedra, the first total ban in the nation.
2002: Sponsored legislation doubling environmental fines in order to restore funding to Suffolk County health centers.
2002: Sponsored legislation to enforce prohibition on video voyeurism in Suffolk County.
2002: Sponsored legislation granting paid sick leave to county employees who donate organs or bone marrow.
2002: Sponsored legislation to establish universal child sexual abuse reporting policy for Suffolk County.
2002: Sponsored legislation to facilitate full public disclosure of election campaign finances.
2002: Sponsored legislation to acquire Hilaire Woods, an 8-acre property that is one of the last remaining parcels of undeveloped woodland in Huntington Village.
2002: Sponsored legislation designating "Prevention Is the Cure Week" to highlight steps that people can take to reduce their risk of contracting breast cancer and other diseases.
2001: Sponsored legislation to acquire and preserve Normandy Manor, an architecturally and historically significant dwelling that served as the superintendent's residence of the original Vanderbilt estate in Centerport.
2001: Sponsored legislation creating a "No Spray List" for Suffolk residents who do not want their homes sprayed with chemical pesticides used for mosquito control, the first program of its type in New York State and the most comprehensive in the nation.
2001: Sponsored legislation directing Suffolk County's Board of Elections to research and report on ways to increase voter participation, including the possibility of voting via the internet.
2001: Sponsored legislation making Suffolk the first county in the state to ban the sale of fever thermometers containing mercury, one of the most poisonous substances on the planet.
2001: Sponsored legislation to purchase the environmentally significant Fuchs property in Northport, a pristine 19-acre parcel that borders the Crab Meadow Watershed and the Town of Huntington's Jerome Ambro Memorial Wetlands Preserve.
2001: Sponsored legislation creating an "E-Government Task Force" that will make recommendations about how Suffolk County government can operate more efficiently through the use of the latest electronic technologies.
2000: Sponsored legislation establishing a "Safe Pets and Families " program to protect domestic violence victims and their pets.
2000: Sponsored legislation creating a task force to develop a "Disaster Animal Rescue Plan" for Suffolk County.
2000: Sponsored legislation to ban the use of hand-held cell phones while driving in Suffolk, the first such law in the nation at the county level.
2000: Sponsored legislation instituting a pilot program to test non-chemical alternatives to pesticides to control the mosquito population.
2000: Sponsored legislation to fund a marine research program at the Vanderbilt Museum in Centerport to help determine the cause of the lobster die-off in the Long Island Sound.
2000: Sponsored legislation creating an easily accessible suggestion box on the county website.
2000: Sponsored legislation to purchase 83 acres of land adjacent to the Northport Veterans Administration Hospital, preserving it as parkland and open space.
2000: Sponsored legislation to provide post-adoption counseling services for adopted children and their new families, the first program of its type in New York State.
2000: Sponsored legislation prohibiting the sale of herbal cigarettes to minors in Suffolk County, the first such law in the state..
2000: Sponsored legislation granting veterans free admission to county parks on Memorial Day weekends.

[mikelbeck]

And finally a press release about seizure of drag racing vehicles:

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
April 6, 2006
Contact: PAUL PERILLIE, MAJORITY CAUCUS AIDE -- #(631) 854-4500

What a Drag!
Cooper’s Law Permits Seizure and Auction of Illegal Drag Racing Vehicles to Protect Public Safety
Disturbed by the alarming increase in injuries and fatalities resulting from illegal street or “drag” racing on Suffolk roads, the Suffolk County Legislature unanimously approved a bill authored by Majority Leader Jon Cooper (D-Huntington) that is designed to make foolhardy, pedal to the metal-heads pay dearly for their reckless sprints.
Cooper’s resolution will protect unsuspecting residents from becoming casualties in illegal street races by permitting Suffolk County police to seize the vehicles of drag racers. Confiscated vehicles may either be sold at auction or retained for official use by a Suffolk County agency.
Fatal accidents caused by drag racers are becoming an American epidemic. In 2001, the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration reported that illegal street racing was listed as a factor in 135 fatal crashes, which was up from 72 street racing-related fatalities in 2000. Current nationwide statistics show that 49 people are injured out of every 1,000 who participate in drag racing. As these numbers continue to rise, they are creating dire consequences here at home.
Last summer, an Elmont woman was killed when her vehicle caught fire after being struck from behind by a car that was drag racing on Hempstead Turnpike. In July, the Southern State Parkway became a tomb for a young couple who authorities say were in a car traveling about 100 miles per hour, on their way home from an illegal drag racing meet that was broken up by police. Yet another fatal accident took place several weeks later on Brush Hollow Road in Westbury, when an elderly woman was killed in a crash caused by a drag racer.
"All of my bills that have dealt with driving treat being behind the wheel as a privilege, not a right," says Cooper. "I can’t imagine anyone who deserves to have that privilege revoked more than a person who completely disregards public safety by purposely treating our public roads as private speedways."

[mikelbeck]

So... it seems that in March 2006 he introduced legislation to look into the "drag racing problem" and find a place for a track. But then in April the solution to the problem was to seize the cars of people who are racing on the street? I agree with that, but what happened to the track? Then September 2006 the legislation was stricken from the records?

[Tmac]

This is the oldest and by far the dirtiest political trick in the book playing both ends (racers & antiracer or racist if you will) to the middle which would be Mr. Cooper the winner,and in the end passing a law that just in his mind will make racers go away by the threat of lossing their car if they race.Their's already a reality show like that called PINKS.You see he's just trying to make Long Island a great place to live for him and his like minded friends.Did you notice I left out work in my last sentence, that's because most of them and their friends don't work they live off the backs of the people they rule,US.This is the reason the AMERICAN WAY of life is being destroied.Politicians first and foremost want to remain politicians so they can rule over their constituants (who are to busy working their asses off to pay for the political F ups they cause)to force their IDEALS on the people they rule.Why do you think they sit up higher then you at political meetings,so they don't have to look you straight in the eye and looking down is the normal eye position when your telling a lie.That's actually government at it's best by already looking down their saving tax payers an eye movement.
By playing their game you the average American can beat them.Organize,have a plan of attack, demand the hard copy answers as an organization to the findings of this resolution(they admit to having documented findings in this document)THAT POLITICAL SURVEY THING.If you can corner them with their own words you can beat them.They do it to each other all the time,which just goes to show you how Fked up they all are.That's why they call it a party we're all invited but none of us go because we don't want to be seen around these people.Maybe we should lower our standards and give them a shot, or we could start a party of our own.The Fast Track American Party,oh I forgot they used that one already for the illegal I mean undocumented that flurish among us.Well I'm sure as a group we could come up with something.

[Art]

So... it seems that in March 2006 he introduced legislation to look into the "drag racing problem" and find a place for a track. But then in April the solution to the problem was to seize the cars of people who are racing on the street? I agree with that, but what happened to the track? Then September 2006 the legislation was stricken from the records?
As I understand it, there was no support for the bill or it's feasability, and it was stricken (withdrawn).
I was told it needs to be reintroduced to be considered. And since I don't live in his district, I don't believe I can ask him to.
As the off season rapidly approaches, "the survey idea" should go on some sort of stationary, Return Reciept Requested, and we go from there. I have like $10.00 I can offer for postage, anyone else??

[Tmac]

As I understand it, there was no support for the bill or it's feasability, and it was stricken (withdrawn).
I was told it needs to be reintroduced to be considered. And since I don't live in his district, I don't believe I can ask him to.
As the off season rapidly approaches, "the survey idea" should go on some sort of stationary, Return Reciept Requested, and we go from there. I have like $10.00 I can offer for postage, anyone else??
1253 to me was just the means to pass the the seizure law,by showing 1253 didn't work.They could have said they didnt get any participation from the motor sports community,or something.Who knows we didn't until after.These are after all politicians we're dealing with.
As far as the survey thing goes We just need to mail a packet with all the surveys in it to the members of the board of each township.WE need to get the names of all the members of the various boards and the townhall addresses.I have access to copy machines envelops and the like.This is what we do need a home address for return postage,a cover letter explaining what we're all about and the survey,to which I have a rough draft of both,but all should have input.Best case senario would be if someone from each township would mail for their town and have it sent back to them or go to a town meeting and directly hand out to each member on the record,be sworn in.I know LIMA is the site we do political things with if their on board do it thru them mailed back to headquarters.Maybe have that meeting face to face on the Nassau,Suffolk boarder we talked about before and post the results here.
For now Art save the ten bucks we should figure that out also if we're going it alone.Now lets here from the rest of you about my new dumb idea,I can take it I've been married 26 years.It all takes input and that's why this site was established.If there are better ideas out there bring em up.

[Supershafts]

I have met with cooper... waste of my time... twice.

I can't get anywhere with no participation....but no one seems to understand that...

LIMA doesn't have the numbers, do to lack of participation.

Have any of you looked at the petition lately, then compared that to the members list...and then wonder...why

[LongIsland63SS409]

I emailed the below letter tonight to my district's Legislator. I will let you know what his response is on how to reintroduce the resolution. It's worth a shot we have nothing to lose.

Dear Mr. Barraga,

I am writing this email in reference to Suffolk County Resolution #1253-2006.

The resolution was to establish a task Force to study the feasibility of eliminating illegal street racing by establishing a legal drag strip in Suffolk County. The Resolution was to also create a racing museum.

In April 2006 Suffolk County passed legislation to fight illegal street racing by allowing vehicles to be seized.

The Resolution was stricken on 9/14/2006. It is my belief as well as many others in the community that the resolution was never properly addressed. I agree with the new law that illegal street racing on our roadways affects our quality of life and vehicles engaged in this activity should be seized.

The sport of drag racing is a great family activity. When performed in legal place it can be very rewarding. With the closing of West Hampton in 2003 Suffolk County residents are forced to drive to Englishtown NJ to race legally.

Long Island has a great rich history of racing. By 1950 there were over 40 tracks on Long Island.

I recently had the opportunity to visit the Himmes Museum of Motor Racing Nostalgia in Bayshore, NY. The museum has been collecting memorabilia since 1975. The museum has artifacts from Freeport and Islip Speedways. The museum even has the ticket booth from Freeport Raceway. Unfortunately the museum has so many artifacts that a great deal of them are outside in the weather. Without a proper museum they will be lost forever.

How can the Resolution be reintroduced? Is there a procedure to follow? With the current state of the economy a Motorsports Park/Museum would create revenue/jobs for the County. It would also create a safe place to race as well as a museum to preserve Long Island's racing history for the next generation.

I am available to discuss further at your convenience either by phone or email.

Sincerely,


http://longislandapa.info/SuffolkTaskForce.pdf

www.thehimesmuseum.com

[novadose454]

i figure...doing anything....something is better than doing nothing....even if its been done before.....i had a salesman come to my place about once a month trying to sell me some copier toner...recharge cartridges....didnt want any.....somewhere i got tired of seeing him there....nice guy....but i didnt need any...had my own supplier....his price was the same...not like im saving money....finally...it was one of those days...i said..give me three..ill try them.....now i split my order with him and my supplier....shit happens....catch him on a ..one of those days....and you got him....ya never know....

[spikeybabe22]

nice letter LI. def. let us know the outcome!

[Tmac]

Nice Letter.Maybe we should each send a letter like this to our reps on L.I.,town officials and so on.At least they would know we're still out here.The only thing I would change is calling it street racing what's done illegally and drag racing as the legal activity.This is something (I know it's just words) but it does differentiate between the legal and illegal activity.Too many times street racing is called drag racing in the news and it does put the legal sport in a bad light.People need to know the difference.Do this Island wide.In Nassau say you heard about this resolution and think Nassau Cty. should do a similar study or offer assistance to Suffolk Cty.to make roads safer and preserve our history.

[JAYMAN454]

I agree.

[LongIsland63SS409]

Thanks for the feedback.

I made the changes to the letter.

Copy and paste the document and send to your elected officials.

FYI: My avatar is from a rusting sign from Islip Speedway Drags at the Himmes Museum.

Mike

[RICHIESBLOWN34]

Good job!

[novadose454]

ditto

[spikeybabe22]

:-) thanks mike

[LongIsland63SS409]

Update:

No response. :(

Not even an email to confirm that it was received.

A registered letter will now be sent to their office.


Mike

[Tmac]

No suprise Mike but we have to keep trying.It's easy to hide behind a computer screen so they wount answer.The registered letter will at least get you a signed reciept.Do you feel the frustration yet.Now think of guys like Marty who have been doing this for years,even face to face meetings get you lip service.This is why I brought up the idea of sending a political survey with all the politicians on L.I.,Nassau and Suffolk,state and fed..If you look back at my posts you can find it.It never got legs but in my mind if you could get something in writting from each one of them you could hold it over their head.If they were against the idea hey their entitled to their opinion and we have a vote.We in My mind need to know what they think about the idea,the feasibility of it.If the majority of them don't think it can work it will never happen,but if they do and we can get them to work together(cooper res.)we might have a chance.Right know we have NO answers,What happened to that Cooper study,why was it stricken,are we affraid to hear they don't think so?I don't know about you guys but I'm tired of spinning my wheels,it's getting boring.Six years have gotten us nothing.I work in Manhattan six days a week,that's a 24 hour commute a week so free time is premium.I'd like to bring this to a head and move on.Why don't we figure a way to do just that,get the answer.I'm tired of hearing my wife say your always on that computer or doing car stuff.I would sure like to know if this is time wasted.Done venting FOR NOW.

[Supershafts]

Is it time wasted, yes.. I do it everyday.. For the sole reason of being able to have my facts straight and not be behind the 8 ball when the day arrises

Unfortunatley though that is the answer...
When the movement was starting to actually work for a short period long before the 1st rally for epcal the people followed thru and sent the letters and made the phone calls, it made them listen to what we were explaining...

When the day came to stand up and be counted....

They figured....wow that guy and his friends can make a lot of phone calls and get a lot of letters signed....


End of anything positive...

So were back to square 1....

What does it take to get the majority out, which are really the biggest complainers and do lots of mouth racing, to fight with us....

Im not feeding them, im not throwing them a bbq, im not catering to them....

So having said that, how do you make them care about something they supposedly want.... Something they want so bad.

Everyday i see so many wrong things and very few care.... even fewer are willing to do anything.. it's always the same with everything, lots of complaints, very few willing to do what it takes.... here you take this and you fix it.... doesn't work that way

I do not know how to change that... What makes a person so beaten down.

I hope to never be witness again to 3000+ people told no, bascially flat out they were told NO.... and leave it at that and accept it as the end all, not even try to continue....
It was appalling to see how many quitters there are, those same 3000+ should have been somewhere on 1 saturday morning, but they allowed themselves to beat...
They allowed some jerk off planning dept head tell them NO... a planning dept head beat them, and they walked away... they didn't even get to stand and fight with the CE or a TS... a dept planning head told them no...your dirt bags... and they allowed them to win by walking away....


How do you fix that? .... How? What do you do to make them want it, try... How do you make a person who quit try and try harder?

[Art]

I wish I knew the answer.

[LongIsland63SS409]

"How do you fix that? .... How? What do you do to make them want it, try... How do you make a person who quit try and try harder?"

By leading by example. If does not happen over night. Eventually someone will take notice and listen.

I do that everyday at the department I manage. Am I going to everyone happy? No not in a million years. By the end of the day I know I did the best job possible.

I have been only a member of this site since end of December 2008. I only found it by chance by surfing the web. This site as well as LIMA is not well known of despite the exhausting efforts of members of both sites.

I have thought of ways to increase membership to this site and LIMA to gain the support we need.

1) There is no mission statement. The mission statement should be at the top of the forum and directly link to the LIMA website. I did'nt know to join LIMA until a member informed me to. LIMA needs a mission statement also.

2) Look at all the car shows we go to. There are hundreds of people. Car people and people without cars just to view. My favorite one is OBI on Sunday morning. Too bad if you can't get there by 6:45am because you don't get a space to park! Spend one morning at OBI and tell me there is not enough support for a motorsports park on LI.

With that said, I know flyers are being handed out. We all know what happens to the flyers. Hardly anybody goes back and signs up for the websites.

What if we can sign people up for the website at the car shows? We can sign them up using a wireless laptop? This way they are automatically signed up. When we need to rally we have all the email addresses to send a group mailing out.

Comments?


Mike

[novadose454]

mmmmmmmmmmm ill bring my laptop...to a car meet
that works for me...

[LongIsland63SS409]

mmmmmmmmmmm ill bring my laptop...to a car meet
that works for me...

To sign people up right on the spot. Without time to think about the flyer you just gave them.


Mike

[novadose454]

yup
for sure

[Supershafts]

"How do you fix that? .... How? What do you do to make them want it, try... How do you make a person who quit try and try harder?"

By leading by example. If does not happen over night. Eventually someone will take notice and listen.


I have been only a member of this site since end of December 2008. I only found it by chance by surfing the web. This site as well as LIMA is not well known of despite the exhausting efforts of members of both sites.

I have thought of ways to increase membership to this site and LIMA to gain the support we need.

1) There is no mission statement. The mission statement should be at the top of the forum and directly link to the LIMA website. I did'nt know to join LIMA until a member informed me to. LIMA needs a mission statement also.

2) Look at all the car shows we go to. There are hundreds of people. Car people and people without cars just to view. My favorite one is OBI on Sunday morning. Too bad if you can't get there by 6:45am because you don't get a space to park!


What if we can sign people up for the website at the car shows? We can sign them up using a wireless laptop? This way they are automatically signed up. When we need to rally we have all the email addresses to send a group mailing out.

Comments?


Mike

I can't count the times we have been on news 12, newsday and the former suffolk life.. Even the NYtimes... 2 times on l.i. talks even radio.

Either everyone is under a rock...or like i have seen they just don't get it...
Or news 12 as i believe isn't that highly watched

As for the lap top idea... you could just hand them a sheet to add there e-mail to right there, you'll find most people aren't writing there e-mail


Spend one morning at OBI and tell me there is not enough support for a motorsports park on LI.

Support and people who take interest in parking there cars / a early morning gathering spot seems to be very different then going to a motorsports facility and those people i find myself having to sell the idea as to wouldn't you rather a spot to go to where your welcome, without being looked at by local law as a problem, people calling up on you.. and if you and _____ want to make that pass or lap around you can do it all in one spot without the added after thought in the back of your head....

I could take you to many spots across long island, queens, brooklyn, bronx and even parts of upstate that want what we are fighting for....including street racing spots.
But, and there is always a but they can't seem to get to what's important...

I have been down to captree many times, i just do not hand you a flyer and walk away, i hand you a flyer and explain the importance and where we are at... I couldn't tell you how many people couldn't stop for a second and listen...they were in a rush to get there coffee, or hand them a flyer and sticker and they toss it to the side... or tell me "it'll never happen"

Aside for going down to hang out and talk, we also had 2 gatherings there, i can still remember the bs attitudes i got from people...the same people i may spend 90 hours a week fighting for... i can remember there face and there car.

As for the plan on LIMA i am sure it is there, it's either in announcements or about us, if not i'll move it to annoucements

[novadose454]

i know the club that hosts flowerfields and belmont ask for you email............i figure why not us.? ..hey if only one out of five give it to us...thats one out of five more than we had before we started....instead of trying to get eveyone...i ll settle for one here and one there....how long have you guys been doing it...??? all those years...so one more here and there helps....somewhere we will have the numbers..gotta keep banging on doors....i dont mind doing it....i brought in three people...if we get one more..they might bring in at least one or two....
it will add up ...might take a hundred years..but so far...we dont have much else to do ...

[LongIsland63SS409]

Nova:

I like the idea of an application to fill out for membership. Even if we got 2 out of every 5 people to sign up we ahead of the game.

Supershafts:

Your dedication and efforts are outstanding!!!! :headbang:

Keep up the hard work!

Last count we have over 500 members in LID and LIMA.

If 1/2 of the members attended a rally and bring their cars up route 25 to the Calverton site we would block traffic for miles. This would send a very strong message to the Town of Riverhead that we do not agree with their plans and that they are not within contract of the Navy land agreement.


Two weeks later we do the same rally at Yaphank.


Mike

[Art]

bump
only because I referenced this topic on a facebook post today.
http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?topic=11165&post=46430&uid=6503048336#post46430
Feel free to add to it.

[LongIsland63SS409]

bump
only because I referenced this topic on a facebook post today.
http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?topic=11165&post=46430&uid=6503048336#post46430
Feel free to add to it.

Done.

Added my letter that was published in the Independent News on Jan 13, 2010.

http://www.indyeastend.com/PicPaperFrame.lasso?-token.issue=2010-01-13

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Mike