New petition started...

[Danvil]

Ok all, i started a new petition: http://www.petitiononline.com/LI2010/petition.html

I also posted it on my wall on FB http://www.facebook.com/share.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.petitiononline.com%2F LI2010%2Fpetition.html#/profile.php?ref=profile&id=643403410. Please pass it on to everyone you know and see what happens. I know you all tried this before, but with FB at our disposal, I believe we can do better this time. Thoughts/Suggestions???

[LongIsland63SS409]

Dan,

Signed!

Thank you for starting it again.

I had to leave the meeting early last night.

Did you make it after I left?

Mike

[Danvil]

Dan,

Signed!

Thank you for starting it again.

I had to leave the meeting early last night.

Did you make it after I left?

Mike

Yea, I arrived around 8:15ish, was a pleasure meeting all that I did. Now that I know how to get there, will be good for next time...

[Tmac]

We now need to make a flyer to leave at speed shops,parts stores,anywhere where people will pick it up.If people are members of car clubs tell your fellow members.

[LongIsland63SS409]

We now need to make a flyer to leave at speed shops,parts stores,anywhere where people will pick it up.If people are members of car clubs tell your fellow members.

Informed the club I'm with to sign the petition.

Mike

http://goodfellascarclub.org/

[Danvil]

I spoke to the editor of The Independent, he told me to write a "Dear Editor" letter and he will put it in the paper.

I was thinking since you all have been at this awhile, maybe one of you should write it? The letter needs to be received by the editor by next Fri for it to go in the following weeks paper.

If no one wants to write the letter, I was thinking of writing a letter detailing that a track would help keep streets safer, bring jobs to LI as well as helping the economy, and of course details about the petition... Thoughts/Suggestions???

[Suicide666]

I think we should wait until the spring.

[Danvil]

We need thousands of signatures, currently there are 60 in little over a day, this going to take some time, might as well start now...

[JAYMAN454]

we need thousands of signatures, currently there are 60 in little over a day, this going to take some time, might as well start now...i agree

[NYMontess]

signed!!

[LongIsland63SS409]

I spoke to the editor of The Independent, he told me to write a "Dear Editor" letter and he will put it in the paper.

I was thinking since you all have been at this awhile, maybe one of you should write it? The letter needs to be received by the editor by next Fri for it to go in the following weeks paper.

If no one wants to write the letter, I was thinking of writing a letter detailing that a track would help keep streets safer, bring jobs to LI as well as helping the economy, and of course details about the petition... Thoughts/Suggestions???

Dan,

I have a letter saved on Word that I have used in the past.

It can be modified for the letter to the Editor. No need to reinvent the wheel.

I can reference the petition in the letter.

What feedback do you want in the letter?

Mike

[Danvil]

Dan,

I have a letter saved on Word that I have used in the past.

It can be modified for the letter to the Editor. No need to reinvent the wheel.

I can reference the petition in the letter.

What feedback do you want in the letter?

Mike

Be sure to sign this petition to have a track built to help deter illegal racing and help bring jobs to LI http://www.petitiononline.com/LI2010/petition.html - For more info visit http://lidragracing.com or http://limotorsports.org - something to that affect...

[novadose454]

#77 signed

[LongIsland63SS409]

Be sure to sign this petition to have a track built to help deter illegal racing and help bring jobs to LI http://www.petitiononline.com/LI2010/petition.html - For more info visit http://lidragracing.com or http://limotorsports.org - something to that affect...

I'll work on revising the letter this weekend.

Mike

[Art]

#84
lol at my machine shop guy "if illegals wanted it...."

[spikeybabe22]

signed

[Suicide666]

+14...had some other people too.

[LongIsland63SS409]

Tmac:

Can Dan's petition post be made a sticky post?

Mike

[mikelbeck]

Signed. And I'll make this a sticky.

[Tmac]

[QUOTE=mikelbeck;12230]Signed. And I'll make this a sticky.[/QUOTE)
This is the guy to ask Tmac is computer stupid

[LongIsland63SS409]

Signed. And I'll make this a sticky.

Thank you for making the Petition a sticky.

Would the sticky Petition be better if it was on the homepage?

Mike

[mikelbeck]

I'll see if I can figure out how to do that.

[Danvil]

I'll see if I can figure out how to do that.

I'll help ya if you need it - I have my own site I put up when I was laid off last year http://danburrows.com - go to the web developer page and I have osme examples of other sites I did... I can probably save you any hosting fees you pay...

[jstahemi]

Signed,and I asked a few hundred friends to help:hello::poke:PETITION FOR LONG ISLAND,NY TO HAVE A RACE TRACK,LOOK
http://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=5732931&an=0&page=0&gonew=1#UNREAD

[mikelbeck]

I'll help ya if you need it - I have my own site I put up when I was laid off last year http://danburrows.com - go to the web developer page and I have osme examples of other sites I did... I can probably save you any hosting fees you pay...

I don't pay any hosting fees, got my own box...

[Tmac]

Signed,and I asked a few hundred friends to help:hello::poke:PETITION FOR LONG ISLAND,NY TO HAVE A RACE TRACK,LOOK
http://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=5732931&an=0&page=0&gonew=1#UNREADThis is how it's done!:2215:

[Danvil]

Mike you obviously got it covered, but offer always out there...

I second that TMAC -Thanks jstahemi....

[jstahemi]

200 views in 3 hours,,,,,not bad:D

[jstahemi]

I also told a few other friends:violenhttp://www.forabodiesonly.com/mopar/showthread.php?t=86150t1: and http://www.forbbodiesonly.com/moparforum/forumdisplay.php?f=28 UMMMMMMM,can ya tell I'm a mopar kinda guy??:2215:

[mikelbeck]

Mike you obviously got it covered, but offer always out there...

Yep, thanks!

[jiml]

Signed.

Good news, I'm 261.

Bad news, there's a lot of fake names on there. C'mon people! If you're going to sign use full names, and if you don't want to put your full address put in town and zip code. This will show politicians that we're real people and we live in their district, and we vote!

[novadose454]

great...another scam
wtf......nothing seems easy...does it...

[JAYMAN454]

Can we combine the old petition with the new petition ?

[Novakain1970]

I signed the petition as well and am sending it out on other car forums that are long island based:headbang:

[Danvil]

I was looking a tthat myslef and did not see a way, unless we copy and paste info on an excel spreadsheet, create a database, and import all into one. can be done, but may take some time.... Another question is: Will combining the two make it a invalid petition.

[LongIsland63SS409]

I was looking a tthat myslef and did not see a way, unless we copy and paste info on an excel spreadsheet, create a database, and import all into one. can be done, but may take some time.... Another question is: Will combining the two make it a invalid petition.

Dan,

I can help you with Excel creating a database when the time arises.

IMO the two petitions should be seperate.

Keeping them seperate shows a "history" of support or a timeline.

Mike

[Tmac]

Your right Mike it shows we're still here,as we were then.As far as the people signing with false names don't pay it any attention.The petition will stand.That could be the enemy tring to make us look bad.A real man will disagree with you to your face,a child hides behind a screen.

[jstahemi]

When I started to "spread the word",it was around 160,now it's over 260:2215:Did I fail to mention that sig's are coming from around the world:D

[Danvil]

When I started to "spread the word",it was around 160,now it's over 260:2215:Did I fail to mention that sig's are coming from around the world:D

Yea, but you have to be a resident of Long Island to vote here... It is still great for support... Too bad so many ppl are leaving zip codes out or not putting full names, the number is misleading. Only full names with zip codes are going to be counted in the end... More than anything though your assistance is very appreciated and hopefully more people will come forward with us...

BTW - now there is 490 signed

[jstahemi]

over 510:)I just told a few hundred more friends;)http://yellowbullet.com/forum/showthread.php?t=204992 http://yellowbullet.com/forum/showthread.php?t=204993

[Suicide666]

The Bullet Rocks.

[Suicide666]

Itake that back, after reading the anti Hati post there F YB

[Tmac]

Might be a good idea to tell people to put their zip.I see the people from out of town as a good thing tourist attraction value.

[novadose454]

Itake that back, after reading the anti Hati post there F YB

i read it too.....wasnt nice at all....

[Tmac]

Itake that back, after reading the anti Hati post there F YB
It's that mentality that puts a bad light on our sport,but if you think about real world at the track it's few and far between.Our sports is loved by all like any other sport.
The only sport I can think of that keeps people out because of race but maybe more so their station in life is golf.Many country clubs keep certain people out.You will never see that at a track.

[Suicide666]

Those certain people come from an economic background, not color.

[Danvil]

We now need to make a flyer to leave at speed shops,parts stores,anywhere where people will pick it up.If people are members of car clubs tell your fellow members.

Did anyone make a flyer as of yet?

[LongIsland63SS409]

Did anyone make a flyer as of yet?

I made one for the next meeting that I will hand out copies to everyone.

I made the flyer using parts of the "Letter to the Editor".

I will see if I can post it and then we can make it a sticky
so who ever needs a copy can print it.

Mike

[Suicide666]

There is a PDF file here someplace.

[Tmac]

If you could get the flyer up I can get copies made for free to bring to the next meeting.As of right now the petition is at 1,029 so we need thousands of flyers.

[Danvil]

If you could get the flyer up I can get copies made for free to bring to the next meeting.As of right now the petition is at 1,029 so we need thousands of flyers.

I can start getting them out immediately myself...

[LongIsland63SS409]

Dan,

If I got valid names and email addresses can I sign the petition from my own computer?

This way we can add names without relying on the person till they get home?

They would still receive the email notification that they signed after I put them in. Right?

Mike

[Danvil]

Dan,

If I got valid names and email addresses can I sign the petition from my own computer?

This way we can add names without relying on the person till they get home?

They would still receive the email notification that they signed after I put them in. Right?

Mike

If they give you the info, I do not see any issues. Yes, they will receive notification via email. Should anyway...

[LongIsland63SS409]

Originally Posted by LongIsland63SS409

Dan,

If I got valid names and email addresses can I sign the petition from my own computer?

This way we can add names without relying on the person till they get home?

They would still receive the email notification that they signed after I put them in. Right?

Mike

If they give you the info, I do not see any issues. Yes, they will receive notification via email. Should anyway...



FYI:

I collected four names, email addresses and zip codes of four coworkers today.

I successfully entered them on the petition when I got home.
They said they were busy to sign up so I offered to do it for them.

Just another way of getting people to sign up.

We can do this method at upcoming car shows and swap meets to obtain more petition signatures.

Mike

[Suicide666]

I few internet tricks and I can blow it out to 10,000 If you want.

[Tmac]

I few internet tricks and I can blow it out to 10,000 If you want.
A post like this can and will take the legitimacy out of an otherwise valid petition.Put yourself in the position of a potential new member or a civic group checking us out and read what you wrote.Get my point.

[jstahemi]

:poke::violent1:

[Suicide666]

A post like this can and will take the legitimacy out of an otherwise valid petition.Put yourself in the position of a potential new member or a civic group checking us out and read what you wrote.Get my point.

Then whats the point? Would it make better sense to get hard signatures instead?

[Danvil]

Then whats the point? Would it make better sense to get hard signatures instead?




Petition is a document which is usually placed before government or public authority which depicts uniformity in thought of people on a particular issue. The Petitions are of two kinds such as hand written petitions and online petitions. The hand written is very limited but access of online petition is very vast. There may be number of reasons for giving petitions:-

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Thus there can be many reasons for making petitions. Their content is also different according to there purpose but petitions are very useful pieces of writing. The petition provides a good stage to express one's ideas, opinions, emotions.

[Tmac]

Then whats the point? Would it make better sense to get hard signatures instead?
Yes real names and public awareness is the goal not just some madeup amount of names to provide a number.If we can't get real support it will never happen.Honesty is always the best policy.

[LongIsland63SS409]

Yes real names and public awareness is the goal not just some madeup amount of names to provide a number.If we can't get real support it will never happen.Honesty is always the best policy.

+1.

Mike

[Suicide666]

A post like this can and will take the legitimacy out of an otherwise valid petition.Put yourself in the position of a potential new member or a civic group checking us out and read what you wrote.Get my point.

Valid?
If you want a petition to be valid get real signatures from influential people where the track location is being built and have them notarized. Ink on paper is what counts. Billy Bob from Pork Bend Utah signs our "online petition" and it does us no good. I’ve sat on committees and as soon as someone whips out the old internet petition we would laugh.

EVERYBODY knows internet petitions are a joke.

FYI there is a calculation used to filter out a real petitions BS signatures. At 1200 on a internet site, if it were real, it would land at about 843.

Not near enough that we need.

WHAT WE NEED IS AN INVESTOR. They will have the manpower and money to influence the people we need.

You have no idea what we went through to have a RC field out hear but we did it. We found the person with the money, contacts and the influence and before you know it......

[novadose454]

UNLESS YOUR CHEATING ON THE OLD LADY.....oooooooooops did i say that outloud?

[LongIsland63SS409]

Valid?
If you want a petition to be valid get real signatures from influential people where the track location is being built and have them notarized. Ink on paper is what counts. Billy Bob from Pork Bend Utah signs our "online petition" and it does us no good. I’ve sat on committees and as soon as someone whips out the old internet petition we would laugh.

EVERYBODY knows internet petitions are a joke.

FYI there is a calculation used to filter out a real petitions BS signatures. At 1200 on a internet site, if it were real, it would land at about 843.

Not near enough that we need.

WHAT WE NEED IS AN INVESTOR. They will have the manpower and money to influence the people we need.

You have no idea what we went through to have a RC field out hear but we did it. We found the person with the money, contacts and the influence and before you know it......

You put a negative spin on everything postive that happens on this forum.

If you have previous experience why don't you post ways to gain more signatures?

You were singled out by other members a while back to take the lead and you did nothing.

Myself and other members on this forum have worked hard to get something postive going.
Your posts are insulting to all members.

Enough with your BS posts.

Mike

[novadose454]

ditto

[Suicide666]

UNLESS YOUR CHEATING ON THE OLD LADY.....oooooooooops did i say that outloud?

Please explain.

[Suicide666]

[QUOTE=LongIsland63SS409;12640]You put a negative spin on everything postive that happens on this forum.

If you have previous experience why don't you post ways to gain more signatures?

Well...I just did.

You were singled out by other members a while back to take the lead and you did nothing.

Singled out? What is this high school? I offer the CORRECT way to do things and you mock me? Hey, I double dare ya.

Myself and other members on this forum have worked hard to get something postive going.
Your posts are insulting to all members.

It’s a joke; we don’t have a president, trustee, treasurer, or ANY committee at all. NOT EVEN A P.O. BOX

Enough with your BS posts.

Get back to me on that after your balls drop.

[novadose454]

Please explain.

in reply to post number 60..........about honesty is the best policy by tmac....i just answered...otherwise on all other topics including petitions ..i agree...:D

[Tmac]

With LIMA as our political front and Marty as the president and others there as cabinet members I beleive we have that covered.Marty has also connected with people possibly interested in investing in such a venture(Dixie Dragzz) I think that's covered.What we need to do is provide the market for the investor and the need to politicians which we are giving an honest effort on,but if there are people out there that know people of influence that could give us some signatures of REAL importance on a otherwise laughable petition feel free to do so.I agree that people of influence can get things done but I don't know any.I'm a blue collar worker and know only blue collar people so I realize from that prospective it takes numbers and hard work to get the job done.Most blue collar people see people of influence as the ones who did drag racing in here.Not in their backyard even if it was there before their yard was.

[spikeybabe22]

UNLESS YOUR CHEATING ON THE OLD LADY.....oooooooooops did i say that outloud?

does this have to do with what i think it is in reference to?

[novadose454]

and that is???????????????????

[Art]

In response to post #58, we have done the hard signature route in the past. Unless someone is willing to devote entire weekends worth of time like some board members did last time, I am of the opinion that the internet thing will have to do for now. I have no time on weekends as I am back to working 6 days (ugh) to keep the lights on at my house.

[Tmac]

In response to post #58, we have done the hard signature route in the past. Unless someone is willing to devote entire weekends worth of time like some board members did last time, I am of the opinion that the internet thing will have to do for now. I have no time on weekends as I am back to working 6 days (ugh) to keep the lights on at my house.
I'm with you Art but post #55 points to fudging or loading the petition with invalid names, which would make the petition a mute point something Suicide pointed out when he was sitting on committies for other issues that petitions were looked at as a joke.If that's the case what is the answer.It's out there so I think we should try and make something of it.There are people willing to do the leg work we use to do.I'm willing to hit the parts houses and local events where I am when I can.
If you think about it what havn't we tried?Is it the timing,the order in which we proceed,our presentation or that besides those of us that post the rest of the Long Island race scene has called it quits or are to lazy to get off their asses.You know as well as I everywhere we went with the exception of Riverhead Town Hall we got some positive responses.I'm suprised with all of Marty's frustration he doesn't weigh 10 pounds.

[mikelbeck]

:violent1:

[Tmac]

:violent1:
ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow point taken

[LongIsland63SS409]

FYI.
Another ongoing petition to bring back CT Dragway.

http://www.petitiononline.com/JayHass/petition.html

Might be a good idea to meet with the people running the CT Petition to share ideas?

Mohegan Sun Casino’s looks like they are backing the Petition.
With the future potential Long Island Casino of the Shinnecocks maybe they can back us also?

Mike

[jstahemi]

That is a great idea

[Suicide666]

They better, both casinos are almost bankrupt.

[LongIsland63SS409]

1780 signatures so far and counting.

Sign/support the petition LI . We need more signatures!

Thank you for your support!

Mike

[Tmac]

Now is the time of tear to go out to the shows and let it be known it's out there. If people want to hand out flyers post and come to the next meeting and I'll deliver what i can. The season is here.This is the time of year people miss a track.

[novadose454]

hopefully everyone of us has our decal on the window of our cars...so people will see them....

[betcha618]

i still have 20 or so Decals if any one needs one.

[mikelbeck]

I've got a bunch also. Gonna keep 'em on me when I go to some shows this spring and hand 'em out to people I think are worthy.

[novadose454]

only if theyre worthy.....

[jstahemi]

FYI,3 guys that got into the finals atMAPLE GROVE Pinks All Out were from Long Island.I was with my friend Chris and we came in 2nd to Don who won.This should be possible here on LI,there were over 500 racers there!!!:violent1:

[Tmac]

I believe it is but why aren't people signing this petition or helping spread the word. We have only ourselves to blame. The time is right. Congrats on your second. Both you guys are members here maybe we should promote winning drivers site.

[novadose454]

signed too